Siteswap browser

Orinoco - 2019-05-28 18:08:25 UTC - Parent #

The first version of the siteswap calculator I made for the twjc website had something like this. It was basically an onscreen numerical keypad where you could enter a vanilla siteswap, if it was valid you could then manipulate the siteswap with a number of buttons that changed it in some way allowing you to build a chain of related siteswap patterns. From memory the changes available were:

Add or subtract 1 from each digit.

Add or subtract the period from 1 digit

Add the number of props to the string (which I didn't realise at the time didn't always work eg 645+5 is fine but 456+5 is not)

It was one of the first things I ever wrote using javascript so it wasn't very good!


Historical sidenote:

Who remembers these?:

https://jugglingedge.com/pdf/SiteswapCards_SG.pdf

This is the artwork that was used for a set of swatches the Gandinis were selling in the early '00s. I misremembered these being categorised lists of related siteswaps like Daniel mentions above but turns out not. It seems crazy to me now that there used to be a manufactured product for sale that was basically a limited directory of siteswap patterns. They are like a dictionary for a language that everyone is now fluent in. It's interesting to see how quickly something can become so obsolete.

Daniel Simu - 2019-05-28 18:28:49 UTC - Parent #

I had this card in my wallet for a while, they were on the back of a flyer for some Gandini show! I was actually looking for it as I was typing my last post but couldn't find it...
Which also reminds me of the pirouette patterns PDF: http://www.jonglage.net/theorie/notation/siteswap-avancee/refs/Gandini%20-%20Pirouette%20Patterns.pdf

Anyway, that seems to be a great start, I forgot to ask: Are there other tools like that? I'm now glad to here there was one, shame it's no longer a feature of the current tool..
Also seems like a much better way to sort it, I was never aware of the rule that you could add or subtract the period of any siteswap!

So what would be a good way to switch period? There doesn't seem to be a simple way for any excited state pattern, except for adding the entry and exit...

Julien_H - 2019-05-29 14:58:39 UTC - Parent #

It's not really related to this kind of subject, but there's this online transition generator (in french) here : http://jonglage.net/generation_transition_siteswap.html

Daniel Simu - 2019-05-29 22:11:43 UTC - Parent #

Oh, that is interesting, and works very well! Thank you :D

Little Paul - 2019-06-01 20:26:50 UTC - Parent #

Talking of ancient siteswap toys, +441179115202 still works...

Cedric Lackpot - 2019-06-02 17:29:22 UTC - Parent #

Yeah but I had to remind you about it at Bungay didn't I? :-D

Little Paul - 2019-06-03 14:33:23 UTC - Parent #

True!

You get credit for reminding me it exists, and I get credit for somehow remembering to make it work again months back (although I can't actually remember doing so)